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JEREMY MAGGS: President Ramaphosa will this week launch the Border Administration Authority [BMA] in Limpopo, because the entity strikes to strengthen South Africa’s land ports of entry, which as you nicely know, are vulnerable to the unlawful motion of products and other people. So many questions right here. Will the initiative work? How unhealthy is the issue at these factors of entry? How will the authority do its job if it’s not sufficiently resourced? So many questions.
With us now could be the brand new BMA commissioner, Dr Mike Masiapato. Dr Masiapato, a really heat welcome to you. In a couple of phrases then, give me the intention of this authority; what’s your remit?
MIKE MASIAPATO: Ja, thanks very a lot, Jeremy. Perhaps the very first thing is simply to point that the position of the Border Administration Authority is positioned in chapter 5 of the Border Administration Authority Act.
So the primary half is to facilitate and handle the reputable motion of individuals throughout our ports of entry, in addition to the border regulation enforcement space.
The second half is to do the identical by way of the motion of commerce. The third half is to cooperate and coordinate our effort with the three important organs of state, and people are the Saps [South African Police Service], the Defence Pressure, in addition to the income authority [Sars], together with every other stakeholder important or with a stake in so far as border administration is worried. In order that in brief, Jeremy, is the position or the capabilities of the Border Administration Authority as outlined in regulation.
JEREMY MAGGS: By way of the present system, what do you suppose the largest drawback is true now?
MIKE MASIAPATO: The most important problem by way of the present system of a multi-agency method has been the truth that if you happen to deploy atypical officers throughout the ports coming from particular person authorities departments, who’re successfully working of their particular person proper on the idea of the departments they signify, that multi-stakeholder method sadly, what it created, it created a variety of fragmentation.
On the port atmosphere, it created a variety of silos, because it had been, even by way of the utilisation of assets, [both] the precise bodily assets in addition to the human assets.
However essentially the most important problem, it facilitated corruption, primarily since you had an atmosphere the place you may have numerous people in a approach working in a single place with none single commander and controller in a approach.
That’s the reason successfully if you happen to had been to go to OR Tambo, you’d discover that there are six managers there coming from authorities. There can be one supervisor from House Affairs, one supervisor from agriculture, one supervisor from well being, environmental, customs, police, and all of that. In order that mannequin, having utilized it as a rustic since 1994, it’s clear that it hasn’t labored. Therefore, we now combine all these capabilities underneath one authority referred to as the Border Administration Authority with a single command and management.
JEREMY MAGGS: And that’s going to be your single largest drawback is reaching that optimum integration, on condition that it’s going to be troublesome to work with customs and immigration officers, absolutely, in addition to the South African Police Service, how are you going to try this?
MIKE MASIAPATO: Ja, Jeremy, perhaps let me point out this level. The purpose is we had successfully built-in all of the 4 capabilities, which was executed by 4 totally different departments. So, in different phrases, we not have the Division of House Affairs on the port. It’s solely the Border Administration Authority chargeable for the implementation of immigration capabilities. We not have the Division of Well being. We now have port well being officers working inside the Border Administration Authority, doing port well being duty and throughout agriculture, throughout environmental. All of these had been built-in into one authority from the implementation of the legal guidelines perspective. That’s the very first thing.
The second factor to notice, Jeremy, is the institution of the Border Administration Authority comes via because the third regulation enforcement authority within the republic after the Saps and the Defence Pressure. So to that extent, you’ll word that we at the moment are making a regulation enforcement construction that’s going to be chargeable for the implementation of the border legal guidelines.
By way of the coordination or cooperation with the police, in addition to with the income authority and even with the defence pressure, that coordination or cooperation mannequin has been outlined by Part 27 of the BMA Act. We have now already assigned what we name the implementation protocol, which defines the varied tasks throughout our numerous constructions and the way one another’s mandate really helps one another and I can articulate that, Jeremy, you probably have time.
JEREMY MAGGS: No, what I’m going to ask you although is it’s nonetheless going to be troublesome to combine these totally different entities. How are you going to try this?
MIKE MASIAPATO: We have now already built-in them, Jeremy. It isn’t going to be troublesome. Perhaps let me simplify this, Jeremy, in order that we’re collectively. Primary, as I’ve indicated, if you happen to go to the port of entry, like now you go to OR Tambo, we not have these departments. We have now the Border Administration Authority and there’s a port commander at that port chargeable for immigration capabilities, agricultural capabilities, environmental capabilities, and well being capabilities. They’re already built-in.
The division is barely chargeable for making legal guidelines, in addition to making insurance policies that we’re purported to implement on the bottom. If I may give you a typical instance, Jeremy, is the Division of House Affairs by way of its policymaking position, will nonetheless be making dedication as to which nationals from which nation wants to come back to South Africa with visas, for instance. So that they make that dedication they usually then write directives to the commissioner of the BMA.
The BMA then because the commander of the forces on the bottom which might be purported to implement border legal guidelines, they may then get a communique to say individuals coming from nation X are supposed to supply visas once they arrive on the port. Individuals coming from nation X, they’re not supposed to supply a visa. So we’re the implementing agent of all these departments after having built-in the operate via Part 97 of the Structure by the president. All of that has already occurred, Jeremy.
JEREMY MAGGS: Alright, I’m going to go away it there. Mike Masiapato, thanks very a lot certainly. The brand new commissioner of the Border Administration Authority.